<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Finding God Outside Of Religion</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.bradruggles.com/2010/07/28/finding-god-outside-of-religion/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.bradruggles.com/2010/07/28/finding-god-outside-of-religion/</link>
	<description>The Art of Living</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:02:04 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: MWorrell</title>
		<link>http://www.bradruggles.com/2010/07/28/finding-god-outside-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-11302</link>
		<dc:creator>MWorrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 15:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bradruggles.com/?p=3678#comment-11302</guid>
		<description>Reminds me of a quote (from memory) from Tony Campolo, spoken in church: &quot;25,000 people died of starvation today and nobody gives a s**t. In fact, most of you are more upset right now that I said s**t than that 25,000 people died of starvation today.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of a quote (from memory) from Tony Campolo, spoken in church: &#8220;25,000 people died of starvation today and nobody gives a s**t. In fact, most of you are more upset right now that I said s**t than that 25,000 people died of starvation today.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: chad vandervalk</title>
		<link>http://www.bradruggles.com/2010/07/28/finding-god-outside-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-11300</link>
		<dc:creator>chad vandervalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bradruggles.com/?p=3678#comment-11300</guid>
		<description>I really struggle with this, because it is so easy to condemn the spending of money. Yet there are times when I look at the magnificent cathedrals built all over Europe as an act of devotion to God which cost far more than anything we built today. 

It is obvious these buildings did not cause the faith to remain, and I wonder if the money had been spent elsewhere if there would be more faith in Europe. 

On the other hand, those buildings have helped me through some very difficult times, especially when trying to figure out what I can give to God (not necessarily financially). 

Do we spend too much sometimes? Certainly. Are some of these gifts invaluable as spiritual acts of worship? Most likely. 

So where is the balance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really struggle with this, because it is so easy to condemn the spending of money. Yet there are times when I look at the magnificent cathedrals built all over Europe as an act of devotion to God which cost far more than anything we built today. </p>
<p>It is obvious these buildings did not cause the faith to remain, and I wonder if the money had been spent elsewhere if there would be more faith in Europe. </p>
<p>On the other hand, those buildings have helped me through some very difficult times, especially when trying to figure out what I can give to God (not necessarily financially). </p>
<p>Do we spend too much sometimes? Certainly. Are some of these gifts invaluable as spiritual acts of worship? Most likely. </p>
<p>So where is the balance?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jorin Cowley</title>
		<link>http://www.bradruggles.com/2010/07/28/finding-god-outside-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-11280</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorin Cowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bradruggles.com/?p=3678#comment-11280</guid>
		<description>Ah yes, I remember reading somewhere &quot;The temple of God is within us.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, I remember reading somewhere &#8220;The temple of God is within us.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: BJ</title>
		<link>http://www.bradruggles.com/2010/07/28/finding-god-outside-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-11279</link>
		<dc:creator>BJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bradruggles.com/?p=3678#comment-11279</guid>
		<description>Great points Brad.  There is definitely a fine line between all of these topics and through faith and trusting in God&#039;s vision for our specific church is a huge obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points Brad.  There is definitely a fine line between all of these topics and through faith and trusting in God&#8217;s vision for our specific church is a huge obvious.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brad Ruggles</title>
		<link>http://www.bradruggles.com/2010/07/28/finding-god-outside-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-11269</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Ruggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bradruggles.com/?p=3678#comment-11269</guid>
		<description>Yeah, playing the comparison game can be dangerous. Churches do it too often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, playing the comparison game can be dangerous. Churches do it too often.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.bradruggles.com/2010/07/28/finding-god-outside-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-11268</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bradruggles.com/?p=3678#comment-11268</guid>
		<description>I agree that I don&#039;t think buildings are necessarily wrong, but it&#039;s the emphasis that we put on them that&#039;s a bigger issue (IMO).  

The Acts 2 church didn&#039;t have power bills or a staff of 50, so we don&#039;t have that to compare to.  What I think has happened is that we&#039;ve compared to &quot;successful&quot; buildings/companies to see how to go about supporting ourselves.  The ministry, I fear, takes a back seat, which is unfortunate for so many.  

Great post, man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that I don&#8217;t think buildings are necessarily wrong, but it&#8217;s the emphasis that we put on them that&#8217;s a bigger issue (IMO).  </p>
<p>The Acts 2 church didn&#8217;t have power bills or a staff of 50, so we don&#8217;t have that to compare to.  What I think has happened is that we&#8217;ve compared to &#8220;successful&#8221; buildings/companies to see how to go about supporting ourselves.  The ministry, I fear, takes a back seat, which is unfortunate for so many.  </p>
<p>Great post, man.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Chelan</title>
		<link>http://www.bradruggles.com/2010/07/28/finding-god-outside-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-11267</link>
		<dc:creator>Chelan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bradruggles.com/?p=3678#comment-11267</guid>
		<description>AMEN, Brad.

My husband Ricky, feels exactly the same way We have to fight to not get angry when driving my a HUGE church structure with the wondering, &quot;how many people right here in this little town could have been fed and clothed and given shelter or counselling with the funds that were raised to build that .. THING.&quot;?! It is something we will always prob. ask, bc churches will always be doing it. 

We just need to make the choice to not let it affect how we respond to our own personal calling. We cannot let it keep us from engaging within the church body and outside of its walls as well - to serve - impact - walk out what HE has called us to do, for the sake of obedience. After all, are we not all individually responsible for acting on the promptings of the Spirit in our own heart? 

Let&#039;s pray for a heart of universal love and servant-hood to supersede the spirit of judgement that can creep up in us all, as the body of Christ Jesus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMEN, Brad.</p>
<p>My husband Ricky, feels exactly the same way We have to fight to not get angry when driving my a HUGE church structure with the wondering, &#8220;how many people right here in this little town could have been fed and clothed and given shelter or counselling with the funds that were raised to build that .. THING.&#8221;?! It is something we will always prob. ask, bc churches will always be doing it. </p>
<p>We just need to make the choice to not let it affect how we respond to our own personal calling. We cannot let it keep us from engaging within the church body and outside of its walls as well &#8211; to serve &#8211; impact &#8211; walk out what HE has called us to do, for the sake of obedience. After all, are we not all individually responsible for acting on the promptings of the Spirit in our own heart? </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s pray for a heart of universal love and servant-hood to supersede the spirit of judgement that can creep up in us all, as the body of Christ Jesus.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brad Ruggles</title>
		<link>http://www.bradruggles.com/2010/07/28/finding-god-outside-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-11266</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Ruggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bradruggles.com/?p=3678#comment-11266</guid>
		<description>I think you represent what a lot of Christians feel Shellie. The challenge is that the message of the gospel is for everyone in every part of the city - urban, suburban and everything in between. It&#039;s challenging sometimes to find a place where you fit and can be used by God. 

I challenge people to not wait until you find the perfect place that models everything you think a church should be. You may not find it. In the meantime get involved somewhere and stay busy doing the things that God has called all of us to. I&#039;m not saying you&#039;re not doing that, just reflecting on what you wrote.

Great thoughts. Thanks for sharing so honestly and openly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you represent what a lot of Christians feel Shellie. The challenge is that the message of the gospel is for everyone in every part of the city &#8211; urban, suburban and everything in between. It&#8217;s challenging sometimes to find a place where you fit and can be used by God. </p>
<p>I challenge people to not wait until you find the perfect place that models everything you think a church should be. You may not find it. In the meantime get involved somewhere and stay busy doing the things that God has called all of us to. I&#8217;m not saying you&#8217;re not doing that, just reflecting on what you wrote.</p>
<p>Great thoughts. Thanks for sharing so honestly and openly.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: shellie (baylormum)</title>
		<link>http://www.bradruggles.com/2010/07/28/finding-god-outside-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-11265</link>
		<dc:creator>shellie (baylormum)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bradruggles.com/?p=3678#comment-11265</guid>
		<description>Many of these Huge Campuses are also on the &quot;other&quot; side of town. Where the plastic people live. Not where the masses can afford to drive. 

One reason I stopped going to the building was I set my expectations too high. I would go back if I can find one without so many plastic people. I know the right place is out there. For now, I am content to do on-line church. I feel like I&#039;m there. 

I need to work on my expectations. I am learning in recovery that expectations can turn into resentment. And it&#039;s not against God by any stretch. But, it&#039;s the people inside. The expenditures for the things you stated. Utilities. Also for salaries of 15 different pastor positions. The community outside the building is in need of real help. Not just superficial help. 

Now I&#039;m rambling. Hate it when I have all this stuff stirring around in my head &amp; it isn&#039;t coming out just how I want it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of these Huge Campuses are also on the &#8220;other&#8221; side of town. Where the plastic people live. Not where the masses can afford to drive. </p>
<p>One reason I stopped going to the building was I set my expectations too high. I would go back if I can find one without so many plastic people. I know the right place is out there. For now, I am content to do on-line church. I feel like I&#8217;m there. </p>
<p>I need to work on my expectations. I am learning in recovery that expectations can turn into resentment. And it&#8217;s not against God by any stretch. But, it&#8217;s the people inside. The expenditures for the things you stated. Utilities. Also for salaries of 15 different pastor positions. The community outside the building is in need of real help. Not just superficial help. </p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m rambling. Hate it when I have all this stuff stirring around in my head &amp; it isn&#8217;t coming out just how I want it!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bill (cycleguy)</title>
		<link>http://www.bradruggles.com/2010/07/28/finding-god-outside-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-11263</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill (cycleguy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bradruggles.com/?p=3678#comment-11263</guid>
		<description>Gotta totally agree with you on this Brad.  I was horrified when I heard the price tag of Chelsea Clinton&#039;s wedding-$5-8 million- and yet many churches are doing the same thing to build monuments that are now a ball and chain around the neck (as you already stated).  Foreclosures on buildings built that can no longer be afforded.  We do need to do some serious rethinking of our priorities.  Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta totally agree with you on this Brad.  I was horrified when I heard the price tag of Chelsea Clinton&#8217;s wedding-$5-8 million- and yet many churches are doing the same thing to build monuments that are now a ball and chain around the neck (as you already stated).  Foreclosures on buildings built that can no longer be afforded.  We do need to do some serious rethinking of our priorities.  Great post!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

